Vishnu Dass (Michael Gungor) is the co-host and executive producer of The Liturgist Podcast. Vishnu is also the host and creator of the podcast "This" which shares the same name as his second book that was recently released. Join us as we discuss Embodiment, Ego and Vishnu's new book. THIS: Becoming Free.

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"You cannot function as a human being without some sense of ego."

- Vishnu